Climate Change Citizens' Forum Sessions

Introductory session summary Citizen’s Forum – 27 October 2020

Agenda

The agenda for the evening was as follows:

• Welcome
• Introductions
• About the forum
• Contracting
• Survey
• Background - the journey so far
• The future

The Citizens’ Forum on Climate Change met for the first time on the 27 October 2020 for an introductory session. The session was designed to set the foundations for future sessions and give members the opportunity to interact with each other and share thoughts and opinions. It was also a chance to discuss and agree the best approach to make the forum a worthwhile experience for everyone.

Thirty-one of the 36 members were present, the remaining five will have a separate introductory meeting as three were unable to attend and the forum has two further spaces for members selected at random from the electoral register.

The session, co- chaired by Mr Ralph Peake MHK and Mrs Jane Poole-Wilson MLC, began with introductions and an exercise to give each member the opportunity to speak briefly to the group. This involved members imaging a future they hoped to have.

The word cloud below represents the key thoughts from the exercise: 

Mrs Jane Poole-Wilson MLC gave some further detail on the selection process for the forum that each group [invited, advertised and randomly selected] had followed, as well as stating the core principles of the forum. The forum will provide insight and feedback to the Climate Change Transformation Board on climate action work from a community perspective as well as providing views and information on specific topics as requested.

We had an open discussion around the question ‘what will make attending the citizens’ forum a good experience and a good use of your time?’

Conversations around openness, respect, feedback loops, freedom to express views and tangible outcomes were had in small groups and as a forum-wide exchange of ideas.

During a brief coffee break, members were invited to complete a shortened version of the public consultation on climate actions held in the summer of last year.

Following the break Mr Ralph Peake MHK gave an overview of the work on climate change to date and government’s journey so far. This included the most recent work on the independent report from Professor James Curran and the government’s action plan phase 1.

Before closing the session Mr Peake looked to future sessions and invited members to share their thoughts on some of the areas they were passionate about discussing.

The Climate Change Transformation Team and citizens’ forum co-chair will use the outcomes from the introductory session and use these to build a foundation for future meetings to make a forum that is inclusive, worthwhile and above all committed to zero carbon emissions by 2050.

Session Two: Citizens’ Forum on Climate Change - The Built Environment

Tuesday 1 December 2020

Agenda

• Welcome
• Contracting
• Discussion – Spreading the word
• Presentation – Available Technology
• Topic – The Built Environment
• Presentation – Retrofitting
• Exercise – The home/roles for future homes and funding
• Conclusions and outputs
• Homework task - Fairness and protecting the vulnerable

Citizens’ Forum on Climate Change Session Two – 1 December 2020

The Built Environment

Following a successful introductory session (27 October 2020) of the forum, which set the foundations for future sessions and gave members the opportunity to interact and agree the best approach for future meetings, this week’s session ‘The Built Environment’ focused on the changes that are needed to home heating and lighting to reach net-zero carbon emissions.

The session opened with a brief recap of the previous session and the agreed way of working together before moving on to a group discussion on how members have been able to engage with others about the forum; with their community, group and/or industry sector.

Members have used various approaches such as, social media, setting up meetings / presenting to groups or simply speaking with their local community/friends network. These interactions lead to a wide range of conversations outside of the forum around grants systems, remote working, new builds and fairness.

Guest speakers Deb and Paul were invited to present to the forum to share their expertise and knowledge on retrofitting. Deb won the Retrofit for the Future Competition and together her and Paul have successfully retrofitted their 1970s bungalow and have cut their energy bills by approximately 60%.

Deb and Paul came up with a plan, summarised below, to retrofit their home. It should be noted that this method is specific to their situation but contains suggestions that could transfer to other style properties:

Roof

• The property was about 45 years old and needed the roof replacing as it was causing damp issues.
• Foil insulation added to the eaves to prevent draughts.
• Insulated the back of loft doors and hatches
• Made sure current loft insulation was the correct thickness

Openings

• Replaced UPVC windows and doors with Argon filled glass – the frames themselves did not need updating as they were already good quality.

Heating System

• Installed smart heating system
• Converted open fire to wood burning stove

Walls

• Added extra insulation for external walls (can be done internally or externally)
• Upgraded to more efficient radiators
• Added foil sheeting behind radiators
• Upgraded curtains to thermal insulated curtains
• Installed wall and ceiling panels in the bathroom

Floors

• Installed under floor insulation
• Lagged under floor heating pipes
• Installed thicker underlay

For more detail see Deb’s Retrofit for the Future Competition submission.

Having heard what was possible, and some of the options available for retrofitting, the forum were asked to consider the barriers that could potentially stop people from retrofitting their own home. Some of the outcomes from this are listed below:

In general, the main barriers were summarised into 3 main categories:

1. Information/education
2. Cost/return on investment
3. Disruption

The forum then discussed possible ways to remove or limit the barriers:

To conclude the session the forum considered the role of authorities, government, communities and business could play in energy efficient homes. Debates around community funding, local authorities being able to implement their own renewables, increasing regulation, setting energy standards, capped profit margins on sale of energy efficient technologies and increasing education and skills.

The information outlined above will be shared with the Climate Change Transformation Board at their next meeting and will be used as insight when developing the engagement strategy and ultimately the revised energy efficiency scheme that is in the early planning stages in line with action 4.3 of the Phase One Climate Change Action plan.

Post session task: To give time to reflect, research and to discuss with community/industry groups the forum was asked to consider of the following outside of the normal meeting hours for discussion at the beginning of the next meeting:

• How can we make sure the changes are fair, and that vulnerable people are protected?
• Who should fund the changes needed?

Background Information – The Built Environment

Background information is made available to members of the Citizen’s Forum on Climate Change, ahead of sessions, to provide a base-level of knowledge on the subject area as well as useful statistics and definitions/explanations of terms used. Background information is intended to be thought provoking to enable stimulating debate at forum meetings and is not intended to signal a policy direction.

What is this topic about?

This topic focuses on the changes that are needed to the use of heating, hot water and electricity in the home to reach net-zero greenhouse gas emissions.

❖ What are the sources of greenhouse gas emissions in the home?

At the moment, 34% of greenhouse gas emissions on the Island are emitted by residential homes. This is the largest component of emissions on the Island. The main causes are using fossil fuels (gas, oil and coal) for heating, hot water and cooking;

❖ How is our electricity generated?

At the moment, our electricity is generated by burning gas though the Combined Cycle Gas Turbine station at Pulrose Power Station, or supplied by the UK interconnector when required, or supplied by Diesel Engines as a last resort. The Combined Cycle Gas Turbine and Diesel Engines produce carbon dioxide and they are fossil fuels.

Using electricity to power lights and electrical appliances (e.g. fridges, freezers, dishwashers, tumble dryers, IT equipment, TVs etc) contributes to these carbon dioxide emissions.

❖ What needs to be done to reach net zero emissions?

Homes will need to change in several ways if the Island is to reach net zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050:

• The use of fossil fuels (gas, oil and coal) for heating, hot water and cooking needs to be phased out. It needs to be replaced with energy-efficient, zero-carbon alternatives. These could include efficient electric cookers, and heating systems that use heat pumps powered by electricity or eventually hydrogen.
• Homes need to be insulated to make them as ‘energy efficient’ as possible, so that they are easier to heat. This can be done through draft proofing and adding loft insulation, insulating walls, and installing high-efficiency glazing. New homes need to be built to very high standards of energy efficiency. Ventilation also needs to be considered properly to reduce heat losses, whilst maintaining good internal air quality.
• Appliances in the home, such as TVs, computers, washing machines, dishwashers, fridges and other equipment, also need to be more efficient, so they use less electricity.
• Some equipment can be timed to operate when there is a large amount of electricity available, for example at night. Fridges, washing machines, and some types of heating could be adjusted in this way.
• People can make changes to the way they live in their homes, including turning lights and appliances off. They can also reduce the temperature that their home is heated at and perhaps wear an extra jumper instead.
• Electricity should be produced through zero-carbon means (renewable energy or nuclear power as seen in the UK) not through burning coal, oil and gas. Some households may be able to generate their own renewable electricity, using solar panels, for example.

Taking these steps brings benefits to householders beyond reducing emissions. Homes that are better insulated will be cheaper to heat and typically more comfortable. Many people cannot currently afford to heat their homes properly and would benefit from better insulation.

Shifting away from burning fossil fuels in the home will also make the air indoors cleaner, improving health.

Making these changes is not free. It will need investment, although energy-saving saves money in the long-term.

❖ What are the challenges in making these changes?

There are some difficult issues to be addressed in making these changes:

• The Island has over 35,000 private sector homes and around 6,200 public sector homes. The Isle of Man’s housing is not very energy-efficient. We could have a better record on building or maintaining energy-efficient houses, as they are not as well insulated as some other countries. How can we get better at this?
• Older buildings (those that are more than a hundred years old – around 25% of all homes) are more difficult to insulate and heat. They need different treatment to newer buildings. This needs to be taken into account.
• There are lots of different views about the best zero-carbon heating systems. Many think that electric heat pumps are the best solution. Others think that switching from natural gas to hydrogen would be a good way of heating homes. Hydrogen can be generated using renewable energy (sometimes called ‘green hydrogen’), or by stripping the carbon out of fossil gas and carbon capture storage of the carbon dioxide (sometimes called ‘blue hydrogen’). There is broad agreement that we will need different approaches in different places.
• People will have to make a number of complex and potentially expensive decisions about changing to different heating systems. These decisions will all vary and there won't always be a 'one size fits all' approach as it will depend on what you can afford and other things like the age and efficiency of your home, whether it’s a flat or a house, how you live in your home (social or private renters /homeowners /part own etc).
• Many changes, like improving energy efficiency, will save money in the long run. However there are costs in the short term. Who should fund energy efficiency measures, and new equipment such as zero-carbon heating systems in the home?
• Should the government fund, through taxation? Should householders and landlords pay for improvements to their own houses? What if they cannot afford to, or don’t want to pay?

❖ How can these challenges be overcome?

There are various ways to help overcome the challenges listed above

• Using central government money (the public purse) to provide financial incentives to improve energy efficiency in homes. It could be for all households, or just poorer households;
• Asking community organisations to provide energy efficiency and/or low carbon heating to householders. Householders could pay for this themselves or via loans, or community shares. Community shares are when people buy shares in a co-operative, which operates on behalf of the community and does not make a profit. (see www.skye.coop)
• Requiring Manx Utilities to pay for energy efficiency measures. These costs would typically then be spread across all energy consumers through energy bills.
• Passing and enforcing laws to ban heating systems that cause a lot of greenhouse gas emissions by a certain date. This would include things like oil and gas boilers (primary heating source in over 95% of homes). The Isle of Man has already announced its intention to ban fossil fuel heating systems in new homes from 2025. No date has been set for fossil fuel heating systems removals in existing properties
• Passing laws requiring homes to meet a certain standard of energy efficiency if they are going to be let to tenants, or sold. This would mean that you would have to insulate a home if you wanted to sell it, or let it out.
• In England and Scotland, an Energy Performance Certificate is needed whenever a property is built, sold or rented. This gives you the energy efficiency ratings and suggested actions for improvements. The Isle of Man doesn’t have Energy Performance Certificates.

Many of these options are already in use in England, Wales and Scotland.

❖ What will the Citizen’s forum consider?

Forum members will consider this question:

What mix of government-led, local authority and community action do we want to get our homes to zero-carbon?

This will include:

• How can we make our homes more energy efficient, and reduce demand for heat and electricity in the home?
• What role could government, community groups and local authorities play?
• How can we make sure the changes are fair, and that people are protected?
• Who could fund the changes?

Some of this information has been sourced from the Climate Change Citizen’s Assembly Resources and their ‘In the Home’ session.

A short webinar to members of the Citizens' Forum on Climate Change to give further detail on the Island's Climate Change Transformation Programme, how the forum fits within the programme, how the work of the forum is being fed back to the board and a look to the next 12 months topics for the forum.

More information to follow.

Citizens’ Forum on Climate Change- Session Three – 24 February 2021

Energy - Where does our Electricity come from?

Following feedback from Forum members, we held the meeting for our February forum at The Lodge in Braddan, as this venue would enable our members to take part in break out groups. Members had the chance to make their individual contributions heard and have a more focused debate on our energy needs.

The session opened with a brief overview of the previous session’s homework, which was to think about the question ‘How can we make sure the changes are fair, and that vulnerable people are protected? Who should fund the changes needed?’

The members were invited to talk to their neighbour about their thoughts on these questions. Please email climatechange@gov.im your feedback and this will be collated together to ensure we capture all your thoughts. This will also give the members who could not make it on the night an opportunity to have their say.

We then invited our energy strategy contractors, who are working on how the Island will achieve 75% renewable energy by 2035, to present to the forum regarding where our electricity comes from (a combination of the CCGT-Combined Cycle Gas Turbine, subsea interconnector and diesel generators.) and our potential future energy choices. The contractors gave a very interesting and thought provoking presentation which will be made available on the government website in the future. Areas covered included the energy trilemma, as well as options for future renewable generation and comparison with the Channels Islands approach to energy provisions. The members had a chance to question the contractors after the presentation, with questions such as:

• What’s the geothermal potential on the Island?
• What is the potential for energy generation from tidal steams on the island?
• Where could CO₂ be stored and how long can it be stored?

As the group is so engaged, we again had more debate and discussion than time, so we will be compiling those additional thoughts and queries via the Teams chat and then the website in due course.

After a quick break, the forum was divided into groups and each group was given a potential energy scenario. Within their teams the members discussed how all of the island’s future electricity needs could be generated using the scenario they were allocated. The scenarios given to each team were:

• Baseload
• Interconnector
• Carbon Capture
• Renewables.

Each group considered their energy scenario and their facilitator presented the findings when the group re convened. The result was a broad consensus that though each energy source had its advantages and disadvantages, a generation mix of renewable energy and storage provision or carbon capture as appropriate, which will ensure security of supply, is the best solution for the Isle of Man.

Mr Peake asked the members if they would consent to their names being made public in association with the Citizens Forum and members were subsequently asked to confirm this in writing.

Post session task: There are 8 types of technology available to us. In a pie chart independently distribute what percentage of the 8 types should make up energy generation on the Isle of Man. Please provide your rationale if you wish, along with any other input from your discussions with your community contacts or sector that you represent.

The 8 types of technology are:

• Solar
• Onshore & Offshore
• Wind
• Nuclear
• Biomass
• Tidal
• Hydro
• Carbon Capture

We would appreciate you emailing in your pie chart and wider feedback by 30th April if possible, so the Climate Change Transformation Board can factor it in to next steps in developing the Island’s Energy Strategy.

The members were reminded that there will be a further webinar on 11 March where the details and invite would be emailed to them.

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Some pictures from the evening:

The Citizen’s Forum is made up of 36 individuals who represent the interest groups and wider public of the Isle of Man. The Terms of Reference are being updated and will be made available shortly. 

The members were selected using a civic lottery style approach; 

• 12 people were selected at random using census data
• 12 people represent interest groups including:
  • Business (Chamber of Commerce Climate Change group)
  • Land Users/Agriculture (Manx National Farmers Union)
  • Construction/Trade (Construction Isle of Man)
  • Young Business Leaders (Chamber of Commerce Think Tank group)
  • Climate Change Action Group (Isle of Man Climate Change Coalition)
  • Architects (Isle of Man Society of Architects)
  • Transport
  • Wildlife/biodiversity
  • Small Businesses
  • Energy Users
  • Vulnerable
  • Students

The stakeholders in bold were invited to apply as there was more than one stakeholder in that group, then a random number generator selected the representative for the forum. 

• 12 people were invited to apply and we received over 250 responses. Applicants were assessed anonymously to give a fair representation of age, gender, ethnicity and views on climate change. The following criteria was used for age:

Some of our members have kindly agreed to be named in association with the forum and the group they represent. 

Mrs Ieda Yell - Energy User Stakeholder
Miss Laura Stewart - Student rep Stakeholder
Mr Martin Coyle - Applicant
Ms Paula Garrett - Electoral
Mr Mike Wilson - Small Business Stakeholder
Mr John Rispin - Stakeholder
Mr Tim Johnson - Stakeholder Manx National Farmers Union
Mrs Sharon Griffin - Applicant
Mr Richard Kneen - Electoral
Ms Amanda Davison - Applicant
Mrs Sarah Hickey - Stakeholder Wildlife/Biodiversity
Mr Peter Washington - Stakeholder Elderly & Vulnerable
Mr David Wilson - Electoral
Mrs Diane Taggart - Electoral
Ms Voirrey Hooson Owen - Electoral
Mrs Ashley Jermy - Applicant
Miss Aoife Donnelly - Electoral

Any queries please contact the Climate Change Transformation Team on: climatechange@gov.im